So that's what it is
I'll take Steve's advice below and plug and do away with it. Every ounce counts!
Thanks!!
I'll take Steve's advice below and plug and do away with it. Every ounce counts!
Thanks!!
Going back together- slowly
- Thread starter Peter Coomaraswamy
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Engine going in-tips accepted
Attempting to put the engine in this weekend. The engine bay is pretty empty. I have a lift and good equipment to do the job but I'm wondering if anyone has put the engine and trans in as a single unit or if that is not advisable.
Any tips or tricks would be most appreciated.
Thanks as always!
Attempting to put the engine in this weekend. The engine bay is pretty empty. I have a lift and good equipment to do the job but I'm wondering if anyone has put the engine and trans in as a single unit or if that is not advisable.
Any tips or tricks would be most appreciated.
Thanks as always!
The photo below is from a poster by the name pf Blaise on the First Fives board. See more photos of this method and his project here:
https://plus.google.com/photos/103050987004936020215/albums/5640124523439121185?authkey=CLqO3pbOnZyMMg&banner=pwa
This is what I plan to use. I think it's a bit easier than a similar method of dropping the car onto the *complete* subframe/engine/suspension assembly because this method leaves the heavy and cumbersome struts off to be installed afterwards. The cart used is nothing more than 4x4's and OSB and it seems a lot easier than other supporting devices.
https://plus.google.com/photos/103050987004936020215/albums/5640124523439121185?authkey=CLqO3pbOnZyMMg&banner=pwa
This is what I plan to use. I think it's a bit easier than a similar method of dropping the car onto the *complete* subframe/engine/suspension assembly because this method leaves the heavy and cumbersome struts off to be installed afterwards. The cart used is nothing more than 4x4's and OSB and it seems a lot easier than other supporting devices.
revitoff1o
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Peter - if you have a 2 post, you can put the engine and trans in all in one shot with it sitting on the sub-frame. I just took mine out today that way.
I supported the front of the engine, rear of the trans, and then have each side of the sub-frame supported. (I had left the wheels on it, but they don't really help support it at all once the shocks are out.) 4 jack stands should do the trick. Put the trans brace on too.
I think if you have the engine and trans with the sub-frame on a furniture dolly, you could move the whole unit around to get it better lined up, probably need less jack stands then too. (Coming out that didn't matter much.) Once the body is lowered, it's 6 bolts. Much easier than going in the top.
I supported the front of the engine, rear of the trans, and then have each side of the sub-frame supported. (I had left the wheels on it, but they don't really help support it at all once the shocks are out.) 4 jack stands should do the trick. Put the trans brace on too.
I think if you have the engine and trans with the sub-frame on a furniture dolly, you could move the whole unit around to get it better lined up, probably need less jack stands then too. (Coming out that didn't matter much.) Once the body is lowered, it's 6 bolts. Much easier than going in the top.
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pamp
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In and out
+1 for sure. The ultimate would be to have a motorcycle jack/lift in the picture.
+1 for sure. The ultimate would be to have a motorcycle jack/lift in the picture.
Thank u all and another question
Thanks for the advice and if I had not been in such a hurry to put the front end in and get the car back on the ground I for sure would have put it in all at once from the underside. I guess it would be near impossible to drop the engine/trans in from the top so I'll stop with that idea. I keep wanting to put the engine back in but these little things keep popping up, broken studs on the exhaust manifolds, bad clutch disk but I think I'm set now. I have an old sub frame that had some cracks in it but it makes a good table-top engine stand so I included a couple of pics. Oh, also removed the "Jarvic-7-scuba tank looking thing".
There is also a question I have on the carbs; I took pics of the tags and I am hoping you folks can tell me if these are stock carbs, and where I can get a rebuild kit for them.
This is more fun than any man wearing blue rubber gloves should have
Thanks in advance
Thanks for the advice and if I had not been in such a hurry to put the front end in and get the car back on the ground I for sure would have put it in all at once from the underside. I guess it would be near impossible to drop the engine/trans in from the top so I'll stop with that idea. I keep wanting to put the engine back in but these little things keep popping up, broken studs on the exhaust manifolds, bad clutch disk but I think I'm set now. I have an old sub frame that had some cracks in it but it makes a good table-top engine stand so I included a couple of pics. Oh, also removed the "Jarvic-7-scuba tank looking thing".
There is also a question I have on the carbs; I took pics of the tags and I am hoping you folks can tell me if these are stock carbs, and where I can get a rebuild kit for them.
This is more fun than any man wearing blue rubber gloves should have
Thanks in advance
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Those are not stock, they are replacement Webers. If you want original, find a pair of Zenith INAT 35/40's and rebuild them, when they are tuned correctly they are great carbs but were misunderstood/maligned and quickly replaced by Webers back in the day. I've had both, and I prefer the Zeniths. Weber rebuild kits are readily available. Try Mesa Performance - read them the carb info and they will be able to help.
And after review..
I only need to remove 4 bolts, the steering coupling, and the struts to get the sub frame out... you think it's worth it. Would putting the engine/trans in as a single unit be worth the hour? I'm thinking so, but I would love to hear from those who have done it. BTW Nice digs Rev!
I only need to remove 4 bolts, the steering coupling, and the struts to get the sub frame out... you think it's worth it. Would putting the engine/trans in as a single unit be worth the hour? I'm thinking so, but I would love to hear from those who have done it. BTW Nice digs Rev!
Thx 4 quick answer
Thanks Steve,
Every time I go further into this thing there is something begged borrowed or stolen from another vehicle; front calipers from a 2002tii, wheels from who knows what, now the carbs. The only history I have on the car was that it was given to a lawyer in trade for "services rendered" around 2000 in Dallas TX. The last owners drove it for a couple of years in New Mexico and then put it in the garage for four or five years before I got it in 2011. Lots of dings and Bondo and a new paint job but only small rust on the floor pans- I took it down to the bare bones. Maybe someday I’ll get the complete story.
Thanks Steve,
Every time I go further into this thing there is something begged borrowed or stolen from another vehicle; front calipers from a 2002tii, wheels from who knows what, now the carbs. The only history I have on the car was that it was given to a lawyer in trade for "services rendered" around 2000 in Dallas TX. The last owners drove it for a couple of years in New Mexico and then put it in the garage for four or five years before I got it in 2011. Lots of dings and Bondo and a new paint job but only small rust on the floor pans- I took it down to the bare bones. Maybe someday I’ll get the complete story.
Got tired of looking at it
So I put it back in tonight. Took about an hour, had a good hoist and an engine tilter thingy, now the real work begins, getting all the conversion stuff matched up for the 5-speed but I have gotten allot of help from Y'all and allot of parts too so I'll keep posting pics-
So I put it back in tonight. Took about an hour, had a good hoist and an engine tilter thingy, now the real work begins, getting all the conversion stuff matched up for the 5-speed but I have gotten allot of help from Y'all and allot of parts too so I'll keep posting pics-
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Upgrade, or not so much?
Hi Folks, I have some parts off a 1980 633 CSI and I'm wondering if it is worth using them on my 3.0. The first is a newer oil canister; any value to using this rather than the stock? Next is a starter, I ask because it's "new", re manufactured, and the third item is the master cyl; again rebuilt. There seem to be differences in all these parts. I'm going from an automatic to a 5 speed so I don't know if these will be enhancements or if they'll even work. Please let me know what you think-I included some pics for identification.
Thanks,
Hi Folks, I have some parts off a 1980 633 CSI and I'm wondering if it is worth using them on my 3.0. The first is a newer oil canister; any value to using this rather than the stock? Next is a starter, I ask because it's "new", re manufactured, and the third item is the master cyl; again rebuilt. There seem to be differences in all these parts. I'm going from an automatic to a 5 speed so I don't know if these will be enhancements or if they'll even work. Please let me know what you think-I included some pics for identification.
Thanks,
