Carpet Followup
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tomcolitt
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I just found some discussions of these items in the Parts section, but nothing concrete. What is the latest status on this? I haven't seen much discussion here unless it is being discussed in a new location. It just would seem that if people are putting in all this time and effort and having a custom run/ order to get the carpet color right, that they would also be interested in the other parts that are at least equally important in making a carpet kit.
Tom P
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Blue Grey Carpet
Hi there...
Little late to the party but I'd like to add my request for the blue/grey carpet kit with trunk piece. Not sure where this stands and hopefully not too late but kudo's to those running point on this one!
FYI, my original has dark grey binding, foot pad and side pad - I'd prefer the dark grey look to match original if possible but open to ideas.
Thanks!
Hi there...
Little late to the party but I'd like to add my request for the blue/grey carpet kit with trunk piece. Not sure where this stands and hopefully not too late but kudo's to those running point on this one!
FYI, my original has dark grey binding, foot pad and side pad - I'd prefer the dark grey look to match original if possible but open to ideas.
Thanks!
of course it is alive and kicking
partly my fault, cos the three of us involved in this long task are pretty much overwhelmed with other duties
yes, there is a sample of correct matching colour textile that we have checked, and it will be soon a preproduction sample
stay tuned because we will need to confirm the list
regards
partly my fault, cos the three of us involved in this long task are pretty much overwhelmed with other duties
yes, there is a sample of correct matching colour textile that we have checked, and it will be soon a preproduction sample
stay tuned because we will need to confirm the list
regards
Carpet Update 27 November
Believe it or not, the effort to have the blue / gray carpet reproduced is moving ahead. And although it may seem like it has dropped off the face of the earth the schedule for production is as detailed when this effort began.
As a reminder...as a very low production run the carpet producers will only entertain production in the off season...which is now.
Klaus at Cabrio has contacted us and a test run of the carpet is in production. He expects to see the sample before the Xmas holidays. When he receives the carpet he will distribute samples to Rob, DeQuincy and me for review.
We will post pictures etc. upon receipt and give you all our opinion on the match.
As to binding and heal pads...we have been discussing these with Klaus and we are confident we can get a close reproduction, however the potential for an exact match would be cost prohibitive requiring special vinyl runs and new tooling.
When we have reviewed and approved the samples it will be time to reconfirm all who are interested.
Thinking this will be my Xmas present!
John
Believe it or not, the effort to have the blue / gray carpet reproduced is moving ahead. And although it may seem like it has dropped off the face of the earth the schedule for production is as detailed when this effort began.
As a reminder...as a very low production run the carpet producers will only entertain production in the off season...which is now.
Klaus at Cabrio has contacted us and a test run of the carpet is in production. He expects to see the sample before the Xmas holidays. When he receives the carpet he will distribute samples to Rob, DeQuincy and me for review.
We will post pictures etc. upon receipt and give you all our opinion on the match.
As to binding and heal pads...we have been discussing these with Klaus and we are confident we can get a close reproduction, however the potential for an exact match would be cost prohibitive requiring special vinyl runs and new tooling.
When we have reviewed and approved the samples it will be time to reconfirm all who are interested.
Thinking this will be my Xmas present!
John
discussions and questions please here
anyone tempted to discuss about the carpet run, may find here a nice place to ask or to propose
some people have recently realized the effort to bring back to life this particular colour, navy blue, and are asking questions
why is only this colour ? why is splitted carpet ?
and so on
feel free to ask here, an we will try to answer, but leave the thread in the parts section to confirm the list, otherwise i will be unable to organize the confirmation properly
thanks for your understanding
anyone tempted to discuss about the carpet run, may find here a nice place to ask or to propose
some people have recently realized the effort to bring back to life this particular colour, navy blue, and are asking questions
why is only this colour ? why is splitted carpet ?
and so on
feel free to ask here, an we will try to answer, but leave the thread in the parts section to confirm the list, otherwise i will be unable to organize the confirmation properly
thanks for your understanding
deQ,
Not for me, but do owners with a `74 US coupe get the `73 and earlier trunk carpet? The large braces in a US 74 I think make it narrower, not sure but thought you may want to check. It is easy to remove binding and trim it then re-sew, plenty of binding there to do this I think.
Chris
Not for me, but do owners with a `74 US coupe get the `73 and earlier trunk carpet? The large braces in a US 74 I think make it narrower, not sure but thought you may want to check. It is easy to remove binding and trim it then re-sew, plenty of binding there to do this I think.
Chris
Chris
Good question and I am not sure we have fully addressed all permutations at this point. From earlier conversations with Klaus his interest seems to be primarily in using the carpet run and make / model can vary. Assume he will use his standard templates so if those are currently available on his website they should be available to us.
John
Good question and I am not sure we have fully addressed all permutations at this point. From earlier conversations with Klaus his interest seems to be primarily in using the carpet run and make / model can vary. Assume he will use his standard templates so if those are currently available on his website they should be available to us.
John
important QUESTION
way are all these sets done in pieces
since im not that familiar with all the models
i have seen numerous pics of the interiors and all seem to be in pieces.
my usa 74 HAS A ONE PIECE carpet
why dont you offer to do that and save tons of time and money putting all those
stupid seams and edges.
i will send a pic and a pattern with the exact dimensions of the oem unit
with the exact same blue weave
then you might consider making one of those
if the stock is not 5 feet wide seam it at the floor tunnel
joint where you wouldnt even see it
ill do this tomorrow
way are all these sets done in pieces
since im not that familiar with all the models
i have seen numerous pics of the interiors and all seem to be in pieces.
my usa 74 HAS A ONE PIECE carpet
why dont you offer to do that and save tons of time and money putting all those
stupid seams and edges.
i will send a pic and a pattern with the exact dimensions of the oem unit
with the exact same blue weave
then you might consider making one of those
if the stock is not 5 feet wide seam it at the floor tunnel
joint where you wouldnt even see it
ill do this tomorrow
probably because the great majority of cars (if not all) originally came with the sectioned installation ... and this idea is about originality, or as close as it can be. are you sure that your 1 piece carpet is original? so what seems stupid to you ...
+1 my car is original and carpet is in pieces
In 74 BMW introduced a one piece molded carpet in the 2002, same for the coupe?
carpet sales
will it be possible the get the one piece unit
that would be great
thnaks
will it be possible the get the one piece unit
that would be great
thnaks
i have the suspicion that what you have is not original, i have never seen such a thing, no side binding, odd heel pad,... i guess you had it placed by someone during the life of your car
but anyway, it is not possible to get that one piece carpet from klaus, he simply does not have the tools needed for that
that sort of one piece needs a huge tool to conform the carpet, with pressure and heat
so simply, NO ! it is not possible to produce it within our run
BTW, moreover, if someone does it i am simply NOT interested
remark, be kind, please keep your comments in this thread, you do not need to place multiple posts in different areas of the forum in order to get more attention
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molded carpets were done to safe $$
Most BMW's (all?) got premolded carpet sets in 1974. These were probably a tremendous cost savings because they reduced the number of parts and labor to produce the parts. I'm sure installation was quicker too. Plus, it's one piece design keeps debris out from underneath.
But, I prefer the multi-piece from 73 and earlier and that's one reason I'm in line on this group buy. I think the time/effort and workmanship that goes into a multi-piece set make them nicer on a restored car. I have an impression that the early carpets were of better quality material too (weren't the early 2800 carpets wool?).
The original carpet in my E9 is in very good condition, but I like the look and the workmanship in the multi piece. Also, I'm reverting my trunk to a pre-74 configuration (bumper conversion done, side triangulation panels go next).
Most BMW's (all?) got premolded carpet sets in 1974. These were probably a tremendous cost savings because they reduced the number of parts and labor to produce the parts. I'm sure installation was quicker too. Plus, it's one piece design keeps debris out from underneath.
But, I prefer the multi-piece from 73 and earlier and that's one reason I'm in line on this group buy. I think the time/effort and workmanship that goes into a multi-piece set make them nicer on a restored car. I have an impression that the early carpets were of better quality material too (weren't the early 2800 carpets wool?).
The original carpet in my E9 is in very good condition, but I like the look and the workmanship in the multi piece. Also, I'm reverting my trunk to a pre-74 configuration (bumper conversion done, side triangulation panels go next).
to tom collit
Tom, i made the list, based in people that had firmly said a yes, i didn't consider you as your position was unclear, but anyway i have asked everyone to reconfirm, see post #138 and on in the confirmation thread in the parts section, so you have had the chance to do so
we have answered to questions up to what we were able to, we are not producing the carpets, just helping this to become real, otherwise Klaus will not make the colour run
there are limitations on what we will be able to have, it is not a taylor-made run, klaus is ready to make the best possible run, but won't admit what he is not able to make, as modify the shape of his toe pads, he clearly told me that he can turn the carpet to black colour and use it fir other customers,...if we pull the rope too much,...
those details are not fixed yet, we have asked for grey binding as it seems to be the majority of the original carpets that have survived, as to heel pads not yet fully detailed, but there will be for sure two pads, heel and toe, size and pattern not fully defined yet
as it is now only a confirmation list and no money has been asked yet
before asking for a deposit, we will detail the price, binding and pads
BTW, in my humble opinion, you have been very constructive, very,...but you have not confirmed yet,
if you want to confirm, just tell me what and how many, and i will be happy to add you to the list ;-), in the following thread
http://www.e9coupe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=127368
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Tom, i made the list, based in people that had firmly said a yes, i didn't consider you as your position was unclear, but anyway i have asked everyone to reconfirm, see post #138 and on in the confirmation thread in the parts section, so you have had the chance to do so
we have answered to questions up to what we were able to, we are not producing the carpets, just helping this to become real, otherwise Klaus will not make the colour run
there are limitations on what we will be able to have, it is not a taylor-made run, klaus is ready to make the best possible run, but won't admit what he is not able to make, as modify the shape of his toe pads, he clearly told me that he can turn the carpet to black colour and use it fir other customers,...if we pull the rope too much,...
those details are not fixed yet, we have asked for grey binding as it seems to be the majority of the original carpets that have survived, as to heel pads not yet fully detailed, but there will be for sure two pads, heel and toe, size and pattern not fully defined yet
as it is now only a confirmation list and no money has been asked yet
before asking for a deposit, we will detail the price, binding and pads
BTW, in my humble opinion, you have been very constructive, very,...but you have not confirmed yet,
if you want to confirm, just tell me what and how many, and i will be happy to add you to the list ;-), in the following thread
http://www.e9coupe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=127368
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tomcolitt
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Thanks for the encouraging answers. I am glad that our collective input was put to good use and I will confirm to buy between 1 and three sets. Some of that depends on whether we can get the sets in March, prices, etc. Also, I can confirm again that in 25 years of working on many e9, I haven't seen an original Blue carpet set that didn't have medium to dark grey binding and the same for the heel and toe pads.
Best, Tom
Best, Tom
Hi Tom
Binding is proposed as gray which is very close in color to the original sample sent. Heal pads...will work to get in gray.
So that said, we have been working on all this from the onset, although the resolution of issues have been tiered as we work first through the more difficult part...carpet production. Your input is appreciated. Intent has always been to get as close a match as practical.
The process is moving along and we will inform everyone as we get further information.
As to price. As said before the prices will likely be similar to Cabrio's web site for an E9 two tone loop. May do better but will be in that range.
And as deQuincey noted production is currently hoped to be sometime in March.
Getting close.
John
Binding is proposed as gray which is very close in color to the original sample sent. Heal pads...will work to get in gray.
So that said, we have been working on all this from the onset, although the resolution of issues have been tiered as we work first through the more difficult part...carpet production. Your input is appreciated. Intent has always been to get as close a match as practical.
The process is moving along and we will inform everyone as we get further information.
As to price. As said before the prices will likely be similar to Cabrio's web site for an E9 two tone loop. May do better but will be in that range.
And as deQuincey noted production is currently hoped to be sometime in March.
Getting close.
John