WTB BMW Mahle 14x7

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With markings as shown pre BBS. Caps also WTB. Thanks!
 

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I have both chrome and plastic caps. Shoot me a PM.

I also saw a set of these wheels on a seattle car that sold about 18 months ago. If you are desperate I can try to hunt them down.

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Sono molto rari i mahle
Con e specifico 9,3
Qualcosa di molto costoso l'ho visto in Italia
Parliamo di quasi 2000 euro
Spero tu possa trovarli
Sono molto molto belli
 

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i have a similar set but they are marked MAHLE-BBS . ( not for sale ) So i assume those are post BBS ? What's the difference if i may ask ?
 

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let's try to give an answer
the mahle were an optional list from 1971 very expensive
it was produced for csL as an alternative to alpina
, but were also on the list for e3 - and the very first e12 535
they had only age 9,3
instead the bbs-mahle are not on the bmw list, but only aftermarket
they were produced from 1974 and up to the years 80-85
almost equal to MAHLE cousins
the bbs-mahle had almost all age 11,
sometimes even 9.3
however the mahle recognize themselves from afar
today they are rare and are not easily found under 2000 euros
the bbs-mahle are spoiled from 200 to 800 euros
not to be confused with bbs-bmw other thing or other kind
from 6.5 and with flat spokes
for all the 80-90 years bmw series
628-635-735etc
 

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let's try to give an answer
the mahle were an optional list from 1971 very expensive
it was produced for csL as an alternative to alpina
, but were also on the list for e3 - and the very first e12 535
they had only age 9,3
instead the bbs-mahle are not on the bmw list, but only aftermarket
they were produced from 1974 and up to the years 80-85
almost equal to MAHLE cousins
the bbs-mahle had almost all age 11,
sometimes even 9.3
however the mahle recognize themselves from afar
today they are rare and are not easily found under 2000 euros
the bbs-mahle are spoiled from 200 to 800 euros
not to be confused with bbs-bmw other thing or other kind
from 6.5 and with flat spokes
for all the 80-90 years bmw series
628-635-735etc


those in pic are my Mahle's 1971 on my 3.0s
 

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Thanks Gianni ! they are indeed ET11. They were on the red rallycar when i bought it in 2013.
The outer lips were painted grey , not polished. :(

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I have a set I would like to refurbish , can anyone confirm the original finish on the wheels? I suspect polished lips were not original but am not sure if they were painted either and would like to confirm.
 

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Ottima domanda.
mahle .si potevano avere a richiesta del cliente Bmw

Bmw bbs solo grigio
Bbs mahle solo grigio centrale oro oppure nero fumo
Naturalmente posso essere smentito
 

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Here is chronology of the evolution of the ET9,3 Mahle wheels...
Of course there may be variants I do not know of.

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Picture 1 :

Up to September 73
Ref 2900363
Mahle prototype, as seen on BMW-owned cars M-AW544, M-YM313 and M-YM709
The basketvawe is larger than on later Mahles
The part of the rim with "BMW" "MAHLE" "7x14" is thiner
The flat (horizontal) part of the rim is deeper
Intermediary row of holes in the basketvawe is an alternance of 2x open / 2x closed
No KBA number
XXXXX-rare


Picture 2 :

Sept 73 to Sept 74
Type RA33
Ref 2200529

Basketvawe slightly smaller than prototype
The part of the rim with "BMW" "MAHLE" "7x14" "2200529" is thicker.
The flat (horizontal) part of the rim is narrower
Intermediary row of holes in the basketvawe is an alternance of 2x open / 2x closed
No KBA number
Always silver
I have never seen a "pre-KBA" Mahle with the BBS brand (which does not mean they never existed)


Picture 3 :

Sept 74 to end of 75
Same as picture 2, but now with a KBA number : KBA40069
(The KBA nomenclature was introduced in the fall of 1974.
From then on every accessory had to wear a KBA number,
which was attributed after being tested by the TüV).


Now also available as Mahle-BBS aftermarket wheel :
Type RA38
KBA 40070
Ref 2900447
Markings "MAHLE -BBS" "KBA40070" "2900447" "7x14"
Available with silver or gold basketwave


Picture 4 :

1976 and 1977

Same as model 1975, but holes in the intermediary row of the basketvawe are all closed (the basketwave looks more "full").
This allowed the wheels to have a higher max. load, a change probably needed for the LWB E3.
Available as RA33 BMW-Mahle in silver and aftermarket RA38 Mahle-BBS in silver or gold


From 1978 - Flat basketvawe BBS

In 1978 (maybe late 1977) the "convex" Mahles were replaced with a new generation of 7x14 wheels, the RA86, with a flat basketwave and ET11.
New KBA is 400160
They are marked "Mahle-BBS" and "BMW".
 
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Now, that's a wealth of information that is greatly appreciated! I believe the wheel that I showed was supplied on the 530 MLE. That gray scale Motorsport cap while available for 13 inch wheels fairly readily was only seen on the MLE and M1? Any knowledge of earlier?
 

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About the ones currently available. Nearly all of the mahle’s that I have seen it owned had basketweave the slopes into then lug bolt area. All of the old ones including those posted here have hard edged inner basketweave. Did they make both?

As seen here. These are actually 5x120 despite the badge. Also for sale in Vancouver.

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Now, that's a wealth of information that is greatly appreciated! I believe the wheel that I showed was supplied on the 530 MLE. That gray scale Motorsport cap while available for 13 inch wheels fairly readily was only seen on the MLE and M1? Any knowledge of earlier?


A BMW Motorsport poster of 1974


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[QUOTE = "2275xxx, post: 214336, membro: 851"] Un poster BMW Motorsport del 1974


[ATTACH = full] 39973 [/ attach] [/ QUOTE]
Grande Henric
 
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