I am installing the ST sway bar set (28/22) and the instructions suggest that you lower the front subframe slightly in order to install the bar. I don't see any advantage in doing this unless it is for clearance in the front. Has anyone done with or without lowering the subframe?
Suspension Techniques Sway Bars
- Thread starter halboyles
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I think the new clips are so large (long) you won’t be able to bend them into their slot and then push down in the back.
I used a thin pair of channel pliers that allowed me to get this done but it was a PIA.
I had to pry my stock brackets back into place as well, it’s really tough to get the bracket flush so you can install the socket bolt from below.
I lowered the subframe about an inch or so. Took less that 20-25 minutes to get the clearance, install the bar & with screw clamps the the brackets & get the bracket bolts started. Doing it this way was a lot easier than the usual wrestling the bar in place.
I'll certainly test fitment before attempting to bolt it on.
How did you use the channel lock pliers to help in the install.
Did that give you more clearance to get the bolt inserted and tightened?
The biggest issue is rolling the new clamp back towards the frame, a lower subframe helps. Channel lock or a clamp can help hold the bracket down on the subframe while inserting bolt from below and trying to place nut on top. Three hands would help too!
We use those on the '02s also, so not much different.
As Chris said. The channel locks can hold the bracket down in the back enough to get the thing started, it's an interation technique, you eventually get it .
And you were able to do this without lowering the subframe?
Without lowering the subframe but with lots of cursing. Do a dry run without the bushing, IIRC it was just able to sit flat without hitting the back of the subframe. There is basically zero degrees of freedom here and you may indeed end up lowering the subframe to avoid the frustration.
Yes, easiest sway bar installation I've ever done. I did buy metric & SAE 3/8 hex socket sets & use the 9mm & my breaker bar to lower the subframe.
It so fast/easy to lower the subframe slightly. I think I lowered it less than 1/2” (12mm). Why bother with the hard way?
John
I got a very good deal on a set of used Suspension Techniques sway bars (22mm & 28MM), however, they came without the sway bar clamps/clips and associated rubber parts. I did email the company, but they never responded. I will likely need to call...
Are different clips required? I identified some rubber parts based on bar diameter that should fit. I think one set (either front or rear) was from an x5 as I recall.
For those that have installed them, did you use new clips or were you able to install with OEM components?
I am planning to drop the front sub-frame for refresh of the suspension.
Thanks.
Are different clips required? I identified some rubber parts based on bar diameter that should fit. I think one set (either front or rear) was from an x5 as I recall.
For those that have installed them, did you use new clips or were you able to install with OEM components?
I am planning to drop the front sub-frame for refresh of the suspension.
Thanks.
ScottAndrews
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Presumably you need the ST clips. The bar diameters are very different than OEM.
My car has the ST 28 &22mm bars. The shop asked me to get all new hardware from ST. They sent me the sets about 3 years ago. I recall the shop telling me installation of the front clips with their urethane bushings was difficult. I hope you're able to contact them.
Thanks @Drew Gregg, I will send them a note again and then call if no reply.
Well John, if the time arises, I'm coming over to lower my subframe, stopwatch in hand.
Anytime, but not fair counting the time to get it up on the lift (or jack stands).
They responded promptly this time, parts ordered via email as a kits that aren't listed on their website.
P# 50015-777 $40.97 front hardware
P# 51015-777 $84.57 rear hardware
Plus shipping and local taxes
P# 50015-777 $40.97 front hardware
P# 51015-777 $84.57 rear hardware
Plus shipping and local taxes