E9 rear Qtr panel on Ebay

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I wonder what the maths would look like if one buys fender patches from W/N, import them to the US and get a professional shop to cut out the rot, weld the patches, smoothen and ideally use lead and not bondo/ filler as compared to a brand new panel which is ofcourse incomparably better than a patched panel. What would the costs be comparatively?
 

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Asking price of 2500$ negotiable is around 2100€ or less, I certainly know what I’d do.....apart from the fact that for a pakka restoration the rear fenders should be removed as a lot of rot lies behind.
 

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With these cars going for $100k+, it may be worth it if you're restoring an E9 to #1 condition.

I remember a couple years ago, I saw a Portland CL ad for new front fenders for $1400. Should have snagged them, even though I didn't need them.
 

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With these cars going for $100k+, it may be worth it if you're restoring an E9 to #1 condition

Absolutely right Rob, at the prices these cars are heading towards, patched up bodies don’t do justice to the prices demanded. If it’s a a Csl with thin gauge panels and the rot is limited to a few ‘spots’ then ok, other than that it’s ‘unfair’ to be hiding the patches behind layers of filler to get the lines straight. Only my opinion!
 

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Absolutely right Rob, at the prices these cars are heading towards, patched up bodies don’t do justice to the prices demanded. If it’s a a Csl with thin gauge panels and the rot is limited to a few ‘spots’ then ok, other than that it’s ‘unfair’ to be hiding the patches behind layers of filler to get the lines straight. Only my opinion!

I get the sentiment l, especially for a thin gauge CSL. Metal is metal however, and it comes down to how well the patches where integrated. Metal work isn’t like woodworking. Welding is additive, and a skilled welder can turn two pieces of metal into one without any filler.

I’m not that welder, but there are many many skilled fabricators out there.
 

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Emphasis on "fabricator". There are many "body and paint" shops but not many true metal artisans that can quite literally fabricate most any type of complex patch required. They couldn't pull off the creation of that stamped qtr panel but can repair most any section. The one that I've seen here and since spoken to is Tyler who did the body and fab work on the @JetDexter CSE project. @Keshav makes a great point. At what stage do the fabrication cost exceed the panel purchase cost (assuming it's available). Perhaps that rear Qtr isn't so expensive.. .

I get the sentiment l, especially for a thin gauge CSL. Metal is metal however, and it comes down to how well the patches where integrated. Metal work isn’t like woodworking. Welding is additive, and a skilled welder can turn two pieces of metal into one without any filler.

I’m not that welder, but there are many many skilled fabricators out there.
 

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For us ‘older’ (not necessarily age related) owners such prices are shocking but then so are coupes (non Csl’s) selling for 120K all the way to 180K+. For those cars I’d expect new panels as most of the older ones need a lot of patch work and other than the odd remarkable welding specialist, most jobs will never compare to a new panel replacement and bare minimum of filler to make perfect lines. New panels are hard to come by but if sellers demand top prices they should also go the whole 9yrds.
Again, only my 2 cents worth of opinion.
 

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At what stage do the fabrication cost exceed the panel purchase cost (assuming it's available). Perhaps that rear Qtr isn't so expensive.. .

If the difference is less or around 1000$, it’s a no brainer for me and even more so if I’m doing it for my own car to keep.
 

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What's everyone's opinion on BMW recognizing the importance of the Coupe to their brand and willingness to reproduce NLA panels and parts?
 

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Apparently the front fenders should be available very soon. With a pinch of salt when coming from BMW though!
 

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There is a 2000cs quarter on German eBay that at least looks like NOS -- this one seems like a newer BMW version which irrespective of price could be thinner guage.

I believe there will soon be a crop up of parts aimed at the restoration shop looking to repair a car and sell for above six figures. That would make sense on both ends but its not really ideal to comment on.

Or I could be wrong....
 

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I think you can buy new front fenders for $1880 (if it is in stock)...so maybe 2,250 is not too outrageous --
 

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I am watching this thread with interest. Correct (IE good fitment) new panels would be wonderful. That said, I do subscribe to the belief that really good fabrication will match a new panel in quality and fitment. Any custom coach work shop makes panels as a baseline. The size of a panel that can be made from a single piece has a limitation directly related to the panel's complexity and the fabricator's skill. But making smaller pieces and butt welding together is a common practice (in this narrow, specialized art form).

In the end, I'll need a lot of panels or a lot of fabrication.
 

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I guess, for me anyway, the mostly naked car in SC ("very rusty CS on ebay") makes a little more sense at almost $2100, as a lot of the sheet metal looks more like cheddar and less like swiss.
 

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Well. Back to square 1, it would seem. I guess the lesson is don’t drive in front of people. I dunno if this can be repaired to a spec that’ll make me happy. We’ll see.
 

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