cdavie2002
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Can anyone tell me what this # relates to?
Thanks
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Chassis numbers...
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Can anyone tell me what this # relates to?
Thanks
Karmann's build number
cdavie2002
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Is there somewhere I can get the stored info based on this number?
No further info is available, I think Karmann used these numbers to track each chassis as they were made. They didn't use the VIN, that was for BMW.
cdavie2002
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Im trying to find any other stamping, if there are any....?
The car has been extensively restored, and any chassis plate has well rusted away....
The car has been extensively restored, and any chassis plate has well rusted away....
Aussiecsi
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The only thing that will give you some history is the VIN ....do you still have that ? ( stamped on the firewall ...RHS ) . If you don't have that , it will be stamped on the engine block, however, that's only of use if you know for sure it's the original engine .
cdavie2002
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The VIN is stamped on the firewall, and matches the V5.
4350149
4350149
cdavie2002
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No conversion
Aussiecsi
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It's a phase 2 csi... built just before mine ( 4350181)
Frankie
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Hi, do you have the list of VIN numbers. I’m have trouble finding the original specification of a car I’m buying… engine and VIN match - 4330066.
Frankie, A lot of what you need is already here on the Forum.
e9coupe.com
E9 VIN Production Range & How to find your VIN.
E9 Production 12/68 to 09/73: Chassis Start VIN End VIN Production Total 2800 CS 2200001 2206283 6,283 2800 CSA 2220001 2221949 1,949 3.0 CS 2210001 2214006 3,837 3.0 CS Carb CSLs (in VIN range above) 169 3.0 CSA 2230001 2232807 2,807 3.0 Csi 2260001 2266506 6,506...
e9coupe.com
Frankie
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Awesome - thanks Chris. The data in the link you provided is the same as the data I've researched elsewhere - but I'm informed by others the lists are incorrect... (sigh)
Can I get an authoritative answer from BMW?
Can I get an authoritative answer from BMW?
Probably not these days. The BMW Group Archive are moving. Official information is they delete all incoming mails unread and will not be back in business until the end of the year. I spoke to a gentleman there in June or July and he told me the same.
If I may say so, @HB Chris' lists seem to be quite accurate.
Do not trust the Wiki, we have the most correct list. The others show 200 too many US 2800CS and don’t include the 21 race cars. The other is the 2 CSiA which I think are already included In the CSi 226xxxx VIN range. Can you tell me where our data is incorrect, I’m all ears.
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Frankie
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This is the problem... people are happy to contradict the data but unable to provide the 'single source of truth'
Hi @Frankie,
Hoping I can help a bit. What exactly are you searching for? The VIN range data on this site is correct. Much time was spent by @HB Chris to validate and correct the range.
You won’t find your build date, original color, original destination on the forum however. BMW provides this information but has not been responsive during COVID.
4330066:
This is the very start of the RHD 3.0CSA range, as indicated in the VIN FAQ that @HBChris posted.
It is included in the registry as a build
hear 1973. This corresponds to the VIN list. It is advertised as a 1975, but that date doesn’t match our published VIN range. This likely a benign date flaw likely tied back to some late registration. It’s pretty common.
The car is a facelift model with late seats, etc. For euro cars this started in 1973 as indicated in the FAQ. The car is listed and registered as Amazonas - a facelift color available in MY 1974+, but for euro
cars that could be 1973.
The original Karmann tag on the car supports that the original color is Amazonas, as it is stamped 76. The tag also indicates that to no surprise, the car has been resprayed.
The VIN plate is original.
The import tag says 1995 which renders the approximate import date of 1998 in the registry incorrect.
VIN’s aren’t necessarily built in sequential order at the vehicle level as shown below, but as a whole the data supports that the progressive VIN ranges tie to a progressive build calendar.
Process of elimination. As you can see, nothing near 1975.
433010 - Built 12/1973
4330013 - Built 12/27/1973
4330036 - Built 12/20/1973
4330036 - BMW CS Registry
3.0 CS , Original Australian delivered, CSiA but ordered/delivered with carburettors
bmwcsregistry.org
433052 - Built 12/14/1973
433066 - Built 12/1973
4330066 - BMW CS Registry
3.0 CS , delivered to BMW Concessionares GB. Imported into Australia approx. 1998
bmwcsregistry.org
4330179 - Ask @Gazz
4330182 - Built 06/06/74
4330194 - BMW CS Registry
3.0 CS , The car was built on 6/6/1974, and shipped to Victoria Australia on the same day, that is all that i know of the vehicle...
bmwcsregistry.org
4330194 - Built 06/06/1974
4330194 - BMW CS Registry
3.0 CS , The car was built on 6/6/1974, and shipped to Victoria Australia on the same day, that is all that i know of the vehicle...
bmwcsregistry.org
4330195 - Built 06/74
4330199 - Built 10/74
4330199 - BMW CS Registry
3.0 CS , front end damage, not structural, needs a full restoration
bmwcsregistry.org
4330207 - Built 12/74
4330207 - BMW CS Registry
3.0 CSL , 2 Owner Australian delivered vehicle, very original (Currently undergoing extensive restoration CSL city pack)
bmwcsregistry.org
Frankie
Member
Hi, thanks for this - provides great clarity. I was researching the car to purchase and confused by contradictory information... now I know where to come I'll ensure my future research starts here (I didn't know of it prior to this).
I really appreciate the effort of those who put this together... could it stand alone on the website as a register for other enthusiasts like me for easy access and reference?
Frankie
I really appreciate the effort of those who put this together... could it stand alone on the website as a register for other enthusiasts like me for easy access and reference?
Frankie