WTB Hood Support & Springs
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My car is white, which would obviously be my preference but I'll take any color if the price is decent since I'll probably repaint the whole thing before too long.
stphers
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hood prop
Hi I have a white torsion spring bar ( it will need paint if you want it concours) I don't think that I have the #1 part that you are looking for, I can look tonight. Send me an e mail at [email protected]
Thanks, Rick
Hi I have a white torsion spring bar ( it will need paint if you want it concours) I don't think that I have the #1 part that you are looking for, I can look tonight. Send me an e mail at [email protected]
Thanks, Rick
ipringle
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I'm dismantling a '72 Bavaria, if its hood parts would be compatible with an E9? - located in Ontario, Canada.
Ian
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2800 Bav vs CS Hood?
They look similar, but I will have to defer to someone elese's knowledge. Hopefully someone can confirm this and if so, that would be great.
They look similar, but I will have to defer to someone elese's knowledge. Hopefully someone can confirm this and if so, that would be great.
Close
but not exact on the E3 parts was my experience. I purchased a used one early in my ownership and found that the distance between the hood brackets was slightly wider. I modified mine by cutting and rewelding one end which was more trouble than it's worth new.
The assembly is available new ( or recently was). Not terribly expensive and reasonable. But if I had the original the two most common fixes are rewelding a bracket back or a spring rod or rods internal are broken or very tired. Those are available too.
There are quite a few old posts on this subject for the searching that are helpful.
but not exact on the E3 parts was my experience. I purchased a used one early in my ownership and found that the distance between the hood brackets was slightly wider. I modified mine by cutting and rewelding one end which was more trouble than it's worth new.
The assembly is available new ( or recently was). Not terribly expensive and reasonable. But if I had the original the two most common fixes are rewelding a bracket back or a spring rod or rods internal are broken or very tired. Those are available too.
There are quite a few old posts on this subject for the searching that are helpful.
Thanks. The bracket never made it back from the paint shop 20 years ago, so it looks like the best option is to buy new. Thanks for the quick response.
stphers
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brackets
Hi,
I looked through my parts last night and found a complete 3.0 coupe bar and brackets ( painted white )
I will send you pictures by e mail asap.
Thanks, Rick
Hi,
I looked through my parts last night and found a complete 3.0 coupe bar and brackets ( painted white )
I will send you pictures by e mail asap.
Thanks, Rick
jmackro
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If you can find one used, in good condition, and the right color, then great.
But those things do wear out - the springs lose tension, the welds on the arms crack. New ones aren't that expensive (Mobile Tradition shows $164 for p/n 41611814312). And given what a hassle it is to install those things, there is some comfort in putting in a new one and being done with it for the next 20 years.
Alternatively, if your tube & arms are in good shape, you can buy just the torsion springs for $18 apiece. See p/n 41611810317 and 41611810318.
But those things do wear out - the springs lose tension, the welds on the arms crack. New ones aren't that expensive (Mobile Tradition shows $164 for p/n 41611814312). And given what a hassle it is to install those things, there is some comfort in putting in a new one and being done with it for the next 20 years.
Alternatively, if your tube & arms are in good shape, you can buy just the torsion springs for $18 apiece. See p/n 41611810317 and 41611810318.
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nashvillecat
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I have welded broken brackets on both a coupe and a sedan, with long term success. Had the fix been unsatisfactory, not being an absolute stickler for originality, I also considered adapting commonly available gas charged struts as a hood prop. Should you feel inclined, peruse the archives for discussion of employing gas charged struts.
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John Buchtenkirch
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Hum, that seems like it might be a reasonable solution for the S38 swap where I’m told the cross tube has to be removed to clear that big 24 valve head. Do the gas springs tend to push the hood forward when open ? The clearance between the open hood and the header panel is already at a bare minimum. ~ John Buchtenkirch
jmackro
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The stock hood spring exerts a forward force on the hood in the open position, so the gas strut conversion might not be all that different in this respect. Having said that, hood alighment (with the hood closed) is quite sensitive to how the mechanical spring is set up - substituting gas struts might require some fiddling to keep the hood in the right vertical plane.
rb1971
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That could work, although on my car I deleted the hood springs entirely due to lack of clearance and installed a CSL-style hood prop. I suppose this also saves some weight but that wasn't really my goal.
i assume a bavaria is an e3 ?, then the answer is:
NO !
they are absolutely different !
Gas Springs
The gas springs were placed so that they are fully extended at the chosen hood open position - they don't push any further which would cause damage. Other point, already made, is that in the closed position they are "over centre" so act to keep the hood closed.
I would have preferred a working hood support, but mine is broken at both ends - a poor crash repair for a PO, and these gas ones do work really well. The installation can be easily removed to restore originality if desired.
Oldcoupe
The gas springs were placed so that they are fully extended at the chosen hood open position - they don't push any further which would cause damage. Other point, already made, is that in the closed position they are "over centre" so act to keep the hood closed.
I would have preferred a working hood support, but mine is broken at both ends - a poor crash repair for a PO, and these gas ones do work really well. The installation can be easily removed to restore originality if desired.
Oldcoupe
Open Strut Length
The open strut length is 585mm from mounting centre to centre.
If you're thinking of using struts, install them with minimal pressure, then have them gassed to give appropriate force. I mentioned in my original post that I used someone who both supplied and regassed struts so when I finished fitting them he came by and set the pressure to suit.
The open strut length is 585mm from mounting centre to centre.
If you're thinking of using struts, install them with minimal pressure, then have them gassed to give appropriate force. I mentioned in my original post that I used someone who both supplied and regassed struts so when I finished fitting them he came by and set the pressure to suit.
