Getrag 262

[erneland]

I have one 262CR Dogleg gearbox that will be sitting in the E9. I stumbled over another gearbox the other day. It looks very similar but the bolts for the middle case are little bit offset from each other. The gearbox is 5 speed and it has the tacho gear.

Pics below. First is the dogleg. 3 last pics show the other gearbox. Is there any value in the non-dogleg version with tacho output?

 

[Layne]

The dogleg is called a Getrag 265/5. It says 262 on the case because the case is identical to a 262 4 speed.
The overdrive is a 265/6, and yes they have pretty decent value because they are the most popular swap into almost anything with an M30. Roughly $500 in the US. No idea about your local market.

 

[Stevehose]

I think a good 265 5 speed is more like min $750 and up as supply dries up.

 

[sfdon]

1500-2500 inspected and resealed depending on mileage.
500 is core.
I haven't seen one in the junkyard in 9 months.

 

[erneland]

Thanks for explanation! I will use the 265/5 in my E9 and the 265/6 in my E12.

 

[Layne]

Wow. I payed $100 for an excellent take out from an M3 that swapped to a dogleg. Those were the days I guess.

Also depends who you ask. It's not like the E28 crowd is ever going to pay $2500 for a transmission to go in a $1000 car.

 

[sfdon]

http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=...1.A0.H0.Xgetrag.TRS0&_nkw=getrag+265&_sacat=0

 

[sfdon]

Core is now 1000.00+

 

[mulberryworks]

Wow. I payed $100 for an excellent take out from an M3 that swapped to a dogleg. Those were the days I guess.

Also depends who you ask. It's not like the E28 crowd is ever going to pay $2500 for a transmission to go in a $1000 car.

Where are you going to find a $1K E28? Other than a parts car..... I haven't seen any for that little.

I paid $1200 for a rebuilt 265/6, without a bell housing, almost two years ago off of eBay. I had a search running and I got an email less than two hours after it was posted. I clicked the Buy it Now and grabbed it.
It had been sitting in the owner's garage for several years and after he decided not to use it, he posted it for sale, apparently not knowing the value of them was rising.

I feel lucky since the parts to rebuild them are virtually unavailable now.

Ian

 

[Markos]

Where are you going to find a $1K E28? Other than a parts car..... I haven't seen any for that little.

Perhaps in Seattle. I left the 528e's in there but excluded the automatics. The issue I see is that most of these are 250K+ miles.

$900
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5893493723.html

$1,000
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5943568829.html

$500
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/5959729219.html

$900
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5935382972.html

$1,200
https://corvallis.craigslist.org/cto/5953585927.html

$1,200
https://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/5956560669.html

$1,400 - perfect donor (originally $700)
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/5930874106.html

 

[sfdon]

Note that none of these cars has a getrag 265.

 

[Daniel Sweden]

It is not without envy I note that it seems crawling with cheap E28 3.5 over there with you

great happiness with you on the other side of the pond

In Sweden "Craigslist" there are two E28 535 for sale today
and a E28 520 (but not interesting)
the cheapest 75000 sk / $ 8,300

https://www.blocket.se/malmo/Bmw_m535_e28_ev_byte_71010486.htm?ca=15&w=3#vi-carousel

https://cdn.blocket.com/static/2/images_full/38/3838611037.jpg

 

[Markos]

Note that none of these cars has a getrag 265.

I'm no expert. I learn everything from experts like you posting content in the interweb. I'm pretty decent at finding cheap cars though, and I was specifically addressing Ian's statement that you can't find a sub-$1K E28. The PNW is swimming in them, as is the Bay as I'm sure you know. They run forever so most are pretty tired and riddled with electrical issues. You can find one with a G265 but you may be dealing with mileage and speedo cable issues.

Anyway, I think the E12 528i that I listed has a 265, but is listed at $1,400.

E28 Transmission FAQ:
http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?t=61367

Manual

• G260/5
  • 
    Used on 5/6/733s from '83-'84. Non removable bell housing, waffle pattern for case casting. Considered weak and cannot accommodate a M5 clutch. Sheet metal shifter support. Overdrive 5th.
• G260/5
  • 
    Used on '83-'88 528es, and E30 6 cylinder cars. Same model number as above, but different bell housing bolt pattern and shape, so it’s not interchangeable. Some or most or all of the internal parts may be, but with the cost of used transmissions, it’s irrelevant. Used sheet metal support thru about 86, then used the cast support. Waffle case pattern. Overdrive 5th.
• G260/6
  • 
    Used on '86-'88 535’s and E34 535s, but they may not have the flywheel sensor holes drilled out. Identify it by the fins on the bottom of the transmission and non-removable case. Overdrive 5th.
• G265/6
  • 
    Used on '82 528e and '85 535i. Also on '85 6/735, '80-'81 E12, '81-'82 6/733s and E30 M3s. Considered the strongest transmission available for E28’s. Is easily identified by a removable bell housing which allows use on M10, M20 and M30 engines, as long as the correct bell housing is used or reused. All except M3s have a sheet metal shifter support. It’s use in '85 M30 powered cars was reportedly dictated by the short life of the 260/5 in those cars. Overdrive 5th.
• G280
  • 
    Used on M5/M6s. Close ratio, but overdrive 5th gear.
• G265/5
  • 
    Never available on US spec cars, it's a close ratio 5 speed similar to the 265/6 overdrive transmission. 5th gear is 1:1. Often incorrectly called a 262 close ratio or dogleg, but a 262 is a 4 speed transmission. All 265’s I’ve seen have the front case casting with a 262xxx casting number, but they are 265s if they are 5 speeds. Removable bell housing and it does have an unusual shift pattern with 1st being off by itself and 4th/5th across from each other instead of 5th being up by itself.
  Other notes: Most or all of the linkage parts seem to be model specific, the sheet metal shifter supports while they look the same, aren’t, even if from the same transmission and for the same chassis, i.e. one from a G265 from a 528e won’t work on a G265 in a 535i. I assume this is also the case for the later cast aluminum shifter supports, but I haven’t verified it myself.

 

[sfdon]

You are very correct about that 1400 car.
My mistake!

 

[kasbatts]

$3500 + for a CR dogleg here in NZ, unobtainium !

 

[Layne]

Note that none of these cars has a getrag 265.

What I meant was, when you buy an automatic E28 for $1000, you aren't going to pay $2500 for a 265 to swap into it. So far I don't know anyone who has. I have no doubt that 265 prices are going up, but they don't all go up at once.

P.S. I also bought a close ratio 265 for $450 a few years ago. Was a deal at the time, and a heck of a deal now. Still hoarding it for a future project.