What Would You Pay For an Original Set of New E9 Tailights?

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I recently contacted a seller who has a set of original factory E9 Tailights in original package with chrome surround? No bulb holders back piece
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Since everyone else is in awe, I’ll ask, what’s the asking price Harry?
 

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There have been a few times in the past few years where single (not pair) NOS lens/frames changed hands for approx. $1200-$1500.
 

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so to be clear Bert, you wouldn't pay that much, you think they are worth that much.

i think that Markos is spot on as a couple of recent single NOS tail lights have sold for 800 to 900 bucks. surely coupeking has a NOS french single that he has been asking 1350 for ... for over a year and hasn't sold it. i could take a set of bad lights, value of 300 to 400 bucks have them rechromed for 200 bucks, buy a set of lenses from Stan for 300 bucks and have the equivalent pair for 900 bucks. if you have the existing frames, then its 500 for the pair plus whatever you paid for the original lights.

i on the other hand would be a buyer for a reasonable price as Markos has suggested if they are new and perfect. i would not be a buyer at the value you have mentioned. if i did buy them i would also have some very nice lights to sell.
 

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Not saying everyone is willing to pay this premium, but there are people who value pristine/perfect NOS trim parts and will not settle for parts that are reconditioned piecemeal that may not be up to their standards. Also, these certain individuals are willing to buy them even at top prices to finish off their restorations or fitment to their prized coupes. When they were still available a few years back, BMW was asking about $1200. Even with certain discounts, they were still in the plus thousand range. So it is doubtful these highly sought after NOS lens/frames will go down in value instead of climbing as the market dictates.

The coupeking NOS unit is going for the BIN price of $1500 now. He may not be able to sell it at that price, but then again may sell eventually to the right buyer. Other than the French market, this taillight lens is not much in demand for the other world markets, hence the lack of interest I presume.

$2500 was my initial low estimate and with everything stated, don’t think is is an out of line or outrageous asking price.
 

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I’m going to start dismantling my car... that’s easier and pays better. Is there no more mans man E9/classic bmw blue collar restorers anymore? 3k for taillights? I shoulda just wrote a check for 50k i coulda missed the pain...but I woulda had to miss the dance[emoji23]


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Pretty sure one can buy a $80k super nice coupe, dismantle and sell every single part and triple your original invest.o_O This logic will also apply to lesser condition coupes as well.
 

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When they were still available a few years back, BMW was asking about $1200.
i actually think that the 1200 price was W+N for their last set or last few pieces ... and i think it was only for the right side ... a few weeks before, W+N was 625 ... i was going to buy them and got distracted ... then the price jumped and i backed away. i am not sure that BMW ever asked more than 700.
 

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If the set is perfect (a 10), I’d say $2500-$3000.

Wow.

Most rarer parts like a Csl Petri, Scheel seats or a set of 4 perfect Alpina Csl 14x7s I don’t even think would be that expensive?

Glad I am sitting on a spare rear complete RH E9 tail light. Never imagined their value :)
 

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Ok, lets look at highly sought after CS/CSi/CSL int/ext trim parts. All are excellent to perfect NOS condition:
Petri 38cm wheels- $1000-$1500
CSL leather Petri- $2000-$2700
Original Alpina 38cm wheel- same as above
Alpina 4 spoke wheel- $450-$600
14x7” Alpinas- $1600-$2000
Staggered 16” Alpinas-$2500-$3200
16” Hardy&Beck 3 piece rims- same as 16” Alpinas
AC/radio front panel- $500-$750
Becker/Blaupunkt period radios- $400-$600
CSL Scheel interior- $3000-$4000???
Alpina shifter knob- $100-$150
Cabin wood set- $1000
New 74> retractable fr seat belt set- $1100
Chromed or satin windshield wipers and new matching blade holders- $400-$500
5 slat anodized aluminum kidney grill-$400
5 slat black CSL grill- $500+
L&R headlight grills-$800
Chromed fr/rr bumper set- $2500-$3500
Chromed rear center lic. plate panel- $150-$200 ( early 2.8 CS only)
Chrome hood/front fender vent set- $600
Interior door handle set- $300
Recovering new leather interior- $4000-$5000
Door card set- $600>
Revised NOS taillight set value- $2000-$2500

The above is just a sample list. As the old adage goes: “The price of being cool ain’t cheap”.
 
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I kind of know where you are going with this, but either way it's fun. :D I just did this on a 2800 CS in the FS section and arrived at a price greater than the seller's asking price.

The one thing I'll say about the tails, and I think Scott touched on this. Tails are not rare, they are everywhere, particularly in Germany. You can get a really really nice set for significantly less than the numbers we are throwing around. Other parts as seen below are more in the hens teeth category, like the steering wheels and some basic parts found on all e9's.

Ok, lets look at highly sought after CS/CSi/CSL int/ext trim parts. All are excellent to perfect NOS condition:
Petri 38cm wheels- $1000-$1500 - agreed
CSL leather Petri- $2000-$2700 - agreed
Original Alpina 38cm wheel- same as above - agreed
Alpina 4 spoke wheel- $450-$600 - agreed, still available at w&n for $500
14x7” Alpinas- $1600-$2000 - agreed
Staggered 16” Alpinas-$2500-$3200 - agreed, that is the California price. For some reason not palatable for the forum
16” Hardy&Beck 3 piece rims- same as 16” Alpinas - low - $3,600 new from H&B
AC/radio front panel- $500-$750 - agreed
Becker/Blaupunkt period radios- $400-$600 agreed, perhaps just a tad high
CSL Scheel interior- $3000-$4000??? low, expect to pay $3K for *matching *correct front seats that still need work. Realistically need to build a rear seat from scratch.
Alpina shifter knob- $100-$150 low, $250+ I would say
Cabin wood set- $1000 - agreed
New 74> retractable fr seat belt set- $1100 - unsure
Chromed or satin windshield wipers and new matching blade- $400-$500 - unsure but wow!
5 slat anodized aluminum kidney grill-$400 - agreed, perhaps just a tad high
5 slat black CSL grill- $500+ - agreed, I have never seen a nice one for sale ever.
L&R headlight grills-$800 - high, you can stumble upon NOS units for less.
Chromed fr/rr bumper set- $2500-$3500 - unsure, cores are about $1,000. Not sure on chrome costs (I don't want to know, la la la)
Chromed rear center lic. plate panel- $150-$200 ( early 2.8 CS only) - agreed, same for the aluminum one
Chrome hood/front fender vent set- $600 - agreed, chrome side vents are NLA
Interior door handle set- $300 - unsure but wow!
Recovering new leather interior- $4000-$5000 - agreed
Door card set- $600> - low, figure $1,000 just for the doors, not including rears
Revised NOS taillight set value- $2000-$2500 - agreed, perhaps just a tad high (but I could see a motivated buyer paying that)

The above is just a sample list. As the old adage goes: “The price of being cool ain’t cheap”.
 

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Thanks Bert/Markos, it is really useful to see this guide to the prices of some key rare parts.

Are non staggered Alpina’s a different price btw?

I am not sure if my own Alpina 16”s are staggered or not.....I have 225/50 tyres on back and 205/55 on front so maybe I have staggered Alpinas? (I know rookie question but the wheels were on when I bought my car).

Many thanks
 
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The Correct wheels for a csl are the Alpina 7x14 (without the extra 5 holes and date stamp which should ideally be prior to the cars production date). The staggered Alpina 7&8x16 are very nice and the choice of most non csl cars, but not factory spec for a csl.
I too have BBS 16” rims, but I have the 7x14’s too (if only recently).

Pics show the wheels and the date stamp, which varies.
 

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